# Where does a high handicapper lose strokes? > Canonical: https://pinflag.io/answers/beginners/where-does-a-high-handicapper-lose-strokes On the benchmark model a 25 handicap gives up about 26 strokes a round to the tour average, 16.9 of them in the long game, 5.2 in the short game and 3.9 on the greens. The recoverable ones are penalties, three-putts and doubles, and Score Killers in PinFlag names them after every round. Topic: PinFlag for beginners and high handicappers, https://pinflag.io/answers/beginners ## Plain facts - PinFlag is an iPhone app; the course maps and every shot live on your phone, so it works anywhere on the course. - PinFlag is launching on the App Store; the download page takes an email and tells you the day it is live. - Every number is strokes gained on Mark Broadie’s published PGA TOUR baselines, priced on the same published baselines in the app and on this site. - PinFlag prices the target you choose, with your own dispersion and the lie read from the course map; the decision stays yours, with the arithmetic done. - Every number is labeled Measured (your own data) or Estimated (a benchmark standing in), and the two are never blended. - Pins you set during a round are yours, and every round exports as CSV or JSON on request.