A 580 yard par 5

A 580 yard par 5 costs the tour average 4.790 strokes from the tee, 0.21 under par. A 250 yard drive leaves 330 yards; from there the hole is three shots, and advancing 230 yards to leave 100 yards prices at 3.800 against 3.800 for laying up to 100 yards.

What the hole costs

The published tee table prices a par 5 by its length: 4.790 strokes to hole out from 580 yards. The tour average beats par here by 0.21, which is why par 5s are where tour scoring is made.

The tee shot

The tee shot model prices a driver of 250 yards with a 22 yard side spread, a 3 wood and a long iron on this hole twice: once open, with nothing to fear inside 90 yards of the line, and once with water 32 yards from it. On the open version the long iron prices lowest at 4.769 strokes; with the water in play the long iron prices lowest at 4.805. The trouble is not close enough to change the club on this hole.

Three clubs off the tee on a 580 yard par 5

Three clubs off the tee on a 580 yard par 5
HoleClubFairways hitPenalty rateAverage approachExpected strokes
OpenDriver57%0%330 yards4.791
Open3 wood65%0%360 yards4.776
OpenLong iron69%0%390 yards4.769
Water 32 yards outDriver53%7%330 yards4.857
Water 32 yards out3 wood57%4%360 yards4.828
Water 32 yards outLong iron61%3%390 yards4.805

Expected strokes counts the tee shot and the hole from where it finishes, with a penalty priced as the stroke plus a replay.

The second shot

From 330 yards the green is out of reach for a 250 yard driver, so the second shot chooses the third. The published fairway table is nearly flat from 60 to 120 yards, which is why laying up to a comfortable number costs almost nothing against laying up to the closest one; advancing as far as a 3 wood goes leaves 100 yards, and the table prices the two against each other.

The second shot from 330 yards

The second shot from 330 yards
OptionLeavesFrom the fairwayFrom the rough
Advance 230 yards100 yards3.8004.020
Lay up to 100 yards100 yards3.8004.020
Lay up to 80 yards80 yards3.7503.960

Each figure counts the second shot plus the expected strokes to hole out from where it leaves the ball.

By handicap

The benchmark model adds a fixed per shot gap to the tour figure for each handicap, labeled Modeled. On a 580 yard par 5 the tour average is 4.790 from the tee; a 20 handicap starts at about 5.765. The whole hole gap is larger than the tee figure shows, because every later shot carries its own gap too.

Expected strokes from the tee, by benchmark

Expected strokes from the tee, by benchmark
BenchmarkExpected strokes
Tour4.790
Scratch4.836
10 handicap5.301
20 handicap5.765

In PinFlag

On a 580 yard par 5 PinFlag prices the second shot before you hit it: put the aim on the green and read the strokes gained with your own dispersion and the water priced with the penalty included, put it on the lay up spot and read that. Shot Cloud draws your shots with the club around each target, so the share that reaches the hazard is your own pattern rather than a guess.

Frequently asked questions

What is the average score on a 580 yard par 5?
The tour average needs 4.790 strokes from the tee on the published table, 0.21 under par; a 20 handicap starts at about 5.765 on the benchmark model before the gaps on the later shots are added.
Can you reach a 580 yard par 5 in two?
A 250 yard drive leaves 330 yards, beyond the model’s reach, so the hole is three shots and the second chooses the yardage for the third: advancing 230 yards leaves 100 yards and prices at 3.800.
Should I lay up on a 580 yard par 5?
The second shot is a lay up either way; the published table moves only 0.15 of a stroke between 60 and 120 yards from the fairway, so the comfortable full swing beats the closest number.
What is a 580 yard par 5 worth to a 20 handicap?
About 5.765 strokes from the tee on the benchmark model against the tour’s 4.790, before the gaps on the later shots are added.
Which golf app does this on the course?
PinFlag, on iPhone. It prices any target on the hole you are playing before you swing, with your own dispersion and the lie read from the course map, draws your real shots on the hole with Shot Cloud, logs a shot in two taps with nothing to buy, and breaks every round down shot by shot. Golfer is $14.99 a month or $99.99 a year with a 14-day trial on the annual plan through the App Store.

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Sources

Every figure on this page is computed from the published baselines, the same ones PinFlag prices your shots with. The scope of the figures: The tee figure is the published tour table for a hole of this length; the tee shot and second shot figures come from the site’s dispersion models with stated spreads, a stated green and a stated driver distance.

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