Going for it from 280 yards

From 280 yards in the fairway, going for a green 30 yards across with rough around it is worth 2.364 expected strokes after the shot on a typical dispersion, against 2.820 for laying up to 100 yards. Going for it stays the better play until the chance of a penalty passes about 20%; at one in ten it is 2.590.

Going for it

The aim model spreads a typical 280 yard dispersion (17 yards side to side and 13 yards long and short, one standard deviation) over the green and its surround with the pin 5 yards from the middle, prices every finish from the published tables and averages. With no penalty in play a miss is a chip from the rough at roughly two and a half strokes, which is why going for it survives a low hit rate. A penalty costs the stroke plus a replay, and the table prices it at every chance.

Going for the green from 280 yards

Going for the green from 280 yards
Penalty chanceExpected strokes after the shot
None2.364
One in ten2.590
Two in ten2.815
Three in ten3.041

Laying up

Laying up trades the chance of reaching for a full shot from a chosen number with a much tighter pattern. The differences between the numbers are small because the published fairway table is nearly flat from 60 to 120 yards: 0.31 of a stroke between the two ends.

Laying up, by the number left

Laying up, by the number left
Lay up toExpected strokes after the shot
60 yards2.600
80 yards2.720
100 yards2.820
120 yards2.907

The break even

Going for it costs 2.364 with no penalty and laying up to 100 costs 2.820, so the two meet when the penalty chance reaches about 20%: each ten percent of penalty chance adds roughly 0.23 of a stroke to going for it. Below that chance the aggressive play prices lower; above it the lay up does. The number depends on the dispersion, which is why PinFlag runs it with yours.

From the rough

From 280 yards in the rough the published table needs 3.830 strokes to hole out; laying up to 100 yards in the fairway spends a shot and leaves 2.800, 3.800 in all. Laying up is better by 0.03 from here. Only a recovery lie with no swing at the ball flips it the other way.

In PinFlag

On the course PinFlag prices this decision on the hole you are playing: put the aim on the green and read the strokes gained with your own dispersion and the water priced with the penalty included, put it on the lay up spot and read that. Shot Cloud draws your real shots with the club around each target, so the share of your pattern that reaches the hazard is a picture of your own game rather than a chance you guessed.

Frequently asked questions

Should I go for the green from 280 yards?
With no penalty in play, yes on a typical dispersion: 2.364 expected strokes after the shot against 2.820 for laying up to 100. With water in play the penalty chance decides it, and the answer flips near 20%.
What penalty chance makes laying up right from 280 yards?
About 20% on the model. At one in ten going for it costs 2.590, at three in ten 3.041, against 2.820 for the lay up.
Does the lay up number matter?
Less than it feels: laying up to 60, 80, 100 or 120 yards moves the figure by 0.31 of a stroke at most, because the published fairway table is nearly flat there. The comfortable full swing beats the closest number.
What about going for it from the rough at 280 yards?
Advancing from the rough needs 3.830 strokes on the published table; laying up to 100 yards costs 3.800 in all, so laying up wins by 0.03.
Which golf app does this on the course?
PinFlag, on iPhone. It prices any target on the hole you are playing before you swing, with your own dispersion and the lie read from the course map, draws your real shots on the hole with Shot Cloud, logs a shot in two taps with nothing to buy, and breaks every round down shot by shot. Golfer is $14.99 a month or $99.99 a year with a 14-day trial on the annual plan through the App Store.

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Sources

Every figure on this page is computed from the published baselines, the same ones PinFlag prices your shots with. The scope of the figures: The go for it and lay up figures come from the site’s aim model with a stated green, pin offset and dispersion at 280 yards; the rough comparison is the published baseline.

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PinFlag shows you this number on the course, for the shot in front of you, before you swing: any target priced with your own dispersion and the lie read from the course map, your real shots drawn on the hole, and two taps to log. Golfer is $14.99 a month or $99.99 a year, with a 14-day trial on the annual plan through the App Store.